May 04, 2004

NYC Bloggers Event - SOHO Apple Store

I went to the NYC Bloggers event last night down in SOHO. It was somewhat interesting, but it really felt like a mid-90s dot com masturbation-fest where many of the folks in the room were seeking validation of their peers rather than information on where the movement is headed. Still, there were some interesting nuggets...

First off the bat, where the hell was Rick Bruner? I would have put serious money on his being there, but I didn't see him the whole night.

The first panel of the night featured Jason Calacanis and Nick Denton. I gather that everyone in the crowd expected these two to go at it Jerry Springer style, but it never really happened. The two focused on business models for their respective companies and the relative advantages/disadvantages. Surprisingly, I found myself agreeing with Jason more than I agreed with Nick, which is weird considering I rarely agreed with anything that came out of Jason's mouth during his Silicon Alley Reporter days. I think Jason is on his way to a good start, with at least one advertiser subsidizing one of his blogs. What I'm concerned about is his company's ability to scale over time. He mentioned he expected to have several hundred blogs within a few years' time. I wonder how ad sales reps will be able to effectively sell advertising on a web property with such wide-ranging content. Also, I think I'd be pissed if I were to be working with him, considering he hasn't hired any ad sales reps yet.

Jeff Jarvis moderated this first panel. Next time, I'd like to see him as a featured speaker. After all, the guy has a ton of intelligent things to say about business models for blogging. It was kind of disappointing to see him in the role of referee for what most bloggers in attendence expected to be a Battle Royale of archrivals.

I liked the second panel, which featured Anil Dash and Meg Hourihan talking about blog management tools. I was pleasantly surprised that the two didn't "geek out." Instead, they brought up some very interesting points about how people use blogging tools, communications paradigms and such. Someone in the audience brought up an interesting question about Movable Type as a Content Management System (CMS) and why people who are interested in a full-featured CMS featuring a blog have to hack two or three software packages together. Honestly, I think this was probably the best comment/question of the night. Some people want their sites to not only host a blog, but other features commonly found in community sites. I love Movable Type, but this site could have easily been a PHP-Nuke site if it were possible to get full-featured blogging out of Nuke.

Unfortunately, I hated the third panel, which seemed like a joke in comparison to the first two. I think it was cool to have some of the more popular blogging personalities on a panel - and the panel certainly was entertaining - but I expected them to talk about something more substantive than how they're handling their new-found celebrity. Also, there seemed to be this overarching sense of suspicion with regard to whether or not a blogger can stay true to the spirit of blogging if they take advertising. There was a question or two about whether bloggers fear offending advertisers. It's a legit question, but I keep wondering whether the blogging movement is just another one of those things that comes out of the Internet that resists commercialization to the point of killing itself. All right, I'm biased, but why is there this fear out there that advertising will pollute everything it touches?

Posted by THespos at May 4, 2004 06:16 AM | TrackBack
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Well, we have been very clear with our bloggers that we would be adding an ad sales team in the 3rd qtr of 2004. we moved that up to the 2nd quarter of 2004 because of the amazing traffic we've gotten in our first four months.

As we all know a blog can take 3-9 months to catch on, so not having our ad sales team in place made a lot of sense... what are we going to do have them try and sell blogs that get 2,000 people a month?! Now that we have blogs breaking the 10-30k visitors a month it makes sense to talk to advertisers.

all the best, Jason
http://calacanis.weblogsinc.com

Posted by: Jason McCabe Calacanis at May 4, 2004 11:33 AM

Jason:

Lemme rephrase...If I were working for you, I'd be upset that there wasn't ad revenue coming in from Day One. While it's not likely you'll get advertisers interested in blogs that are a day or two old, there's no reason why you couldn't implement a network ad server and run some CPC ads or low-cost CPM ads across the network until blogs are big enough to merit their own sponsorships. While I appreciate what you're saying, you're going to have to invest in the ad server sooner or later - best to do it asap and start making intros to agencies and advertisers so that by the time some of these blogs do get big enough, you already have a relationship in place, the network ad server has had all the bugs worked out, and everything's ready to go.

Best,

-TFH

Posted by: Tom Hespos at May 4, 2004 01:23 PM

I saw Jarvis speak at the BloggerCon at Harvard last month, and he went through a whole list of blogging-as-business models. Here it is:

http://www.seedwiki.com/page.cfm?doc=BlogBusiness&wikiid=5030&wpid=

Posted by: Stephen Silver at May 4, 2004 01:30 PM
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